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Comment by foldr

3 hours ago

Humans don't need a lot of training and finite tuning to make only legal moves.

An intelligent adult could simply read a short summary of the rules of chess and then, if they were careful, play a very bad game of chess without making illegal moves.

An LLM that has not been trained on any chess data cannot do that, at present. If you doubt it, take a current model and tell it that you want to play it at a variant of chess where, say, knights can also move diagonally like bishops. A human can easily adapt to this new ruleset (even if they make tactical mistakes, not having practiced with this variant of the rules).

How long a prompt do you think would be required to cajole an LLM into making legal moves at the rate of a human? Or do you think no amount of prompting could do that?

  • I don't know. My understanding is that current models will eventually fall into making illegal moves in longer chess games, and that no amount of prompting reliably gets them to stop doing so.

    • More importantly, beginner human players don't exhibit that tendency. The history of the position doesn't bother a human (except as required for castling and en passant rules), and the analysis becomes generally easier as pieces come off the board.

    • I've not noticed this happening if you give it the FEN each move. The alternative is just blindfold chess and very few humans can do that for long.

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