Comment by _ache_

Why mostly unusable 125b?

I assume you are talking about qwen3.8-flash-next. Support for it on some places, like llama.cpp, is still wip (depending on configuration) but it looks like a very capable model in it's category.

Qwen 3.8 Flash Next is amazing, i did hundreds of turns and billions of prefill and it may not be as smart as sota but then again it does what i tell it to and it does it well.

Qwen 3.8 Max was open-weight released [1], as was Qwen 3.8 Flash Next [2].

I still agree that they aren't as aggressively releasing the open-weights models as before, but there hasn't been a major release they haven't published the weights for yet afaik.

[1] https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-2.4T-A95B [2] https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next

> definitively slowing down

Surely it was meant to be 'definitely' - the "good news" at this stage are that given the speed of history and important levels of uncertainty, it is difficult to label trends with "definitively" ;)

Some would not have bet that the change of management at Qwen would have kept similar good results, but there we are, presumably satisfied. Other changes will happen, there or elsewhere - the situation is still very open.

And when the "40Watts Intelligence" (which we know possible) will be implemented... It will be a testimony that the current was only a middle-way, temporary, dynamic stage.

Out of curiosity, what's makes the 125B unsuable? (performance of running it, the quality of that version of the model, or something else?)