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Comment by rw2

4 hours ago

Great engineering schools and good tech companies to train them post graduation.

Europe has none;

The best tech university in Europe when compared to Chinese/US equivalents won't even rank in the top 10.

ETH Zürich is up there high, particularly for computer science.

The LLM they were involved in last year (Apertus) still was a letdown.

As someone who actually went there, my impression is that Europe in general is complacent when it comes to computers, and any bright eyed student will get their motivation choked out of them in academia here.

If you want to do things with AI in Europe, you can have a bigger effect by working for a consulting company than being at a university. That's … not a good sitatution.

The "Attention is all you need" paper authors where four (!) Europeans and one from US, amongst others. The "Top 10" lists are just complete rubbish, not worth the paper they are written on.

Europeans do not have the hustle mentality to break the law like Uber so you wont see them compete in anything data heavy. They also are quite risk adverse, probably from having a lower Gini coefficient.

Simpler view for me: this is one of the most capital intense technologies to exist. Europe does not have enough capital to compete. China is building its own chips. It’s own everything. Silicon up. How do you compete with that. Only Google and maybe Aamazon is doing it domestically.

  • > How do you compete with that.

    I feel people are too focused on US/China and don't pay attention to what is going on in the world.

    ASML in the Netherlands for example was the only company in the world that makes EUV lithography machines, which all the major chip companies depend on. China recently reverse engineered their work to create machines since late 2025, but not sold commercially.

    Ireland has chip production facilities.

    EU might not be in the top 2, but it is not out of the running at all.

  • Europe has more capital than China, it's just spent on pensions for boomers, refugees and pointless vanity projects