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Comment by VCFundedGenYer

21 hours ago

There aren't small problems in these posters though. They're huge, obvious, and an indicator that the one who made the flyer didn't care whatsoever.

When it includes an American Flag with more than 50 stars + the bottom row is cut off, you know they didn't even bother to proofread it.

This is the kind of garbage we're suffering with.

Those are, comparatively, small problems for the medium of a poster.

You have to understand that 99% of people who will see the poster will view it for <5 seconds. They wont sit there and count the stars.

And, of the people who do examine the poster closely, they’re looking at the text. They want to see the date, time, event details. The background is background.

  • But what is the point of the background then? I mean, it seems like we're admitting that the design doesn't matter, then why keep up the ruse? Let's drop design, and keep just plain textual information. There is no substance to it, it's just performative, a simulacrum of design.

    • I would think to catch people's eye so they look in the first place, sort of similar to an ad. Which is also why we see AI slop work well in ads. And before AI slop, we had corpo slop. Just bright colors and wacky animated characters who all fit that archetype where their limbs are too big. So I do think the design takes a back seat, at least for the common case. Of course there are exceptions, and those exceptions are exceptional, but for most purposes slop works fine.

You should try typing "American flag clipart" into Google and see non-AI images with the wrong number of stars.

  • Aren’t those ai generated too?

    • Why you making me check for you?

      The first one I clicked on is at a stock photo site that says:

      Every visual at iStock is crafted through human expertise, creativity, and ingenuity. We do not allow AI-generated visuals in our library.

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> They're huge, obvious, and an indicator that the one who made the flyer didn't care whatsoever.

Remember when this sort of ascending tricolon was supposed to be a dead giveaway for LLM-written prose?

Not every poster has that issue as you can see from the posting. It is a simple matter of caring enough to look at the output in more detail. These are issues that can be overcome.

  • Sure, but the basic value proposition of AI is that you don't have to care. These issues could be overcome, but they aren't, because the whole way the technology is promoted and sold guides the user away from caring.

    • Disagree. The value proposition of AI is that you can focus your caring on the things that matter, and let the machine do the dirty work.

    • One of the things that keeps circling in my mind when it comes to LLMs and similar transformer architectures is they are technically very impressive, and some of the things they can do are amazing, but there seems to be a compulsive need by the executives of corporations producing them to lie about their capabilities.

      I suspect that what drives the compulsive lying and exaggeration is that they know what LLMs can actually do is not worth the development and operating costs (at least for now), so, like Bernie Madoff, they pretend that they're more capable than they are in the hopes that the next round of investment will somehow bridge the gap and let them actually produce what they've been falsely promising their investors they can do, and make the whole thing worthwhile.

This is the important part. Right now, AI is a tool. You can use it to generate high quality output, or you can use it to generate slop. If the output is slop, that is a reflection of the person using the tool, not AI.

I get AI slop from employees sometimes. If they provide poor quality work that hasn't been proofread, that is an employee problem, not an AI problem.

  • You know the saying where a million dollar company failing is "their" problem, but a billion dollar company failing is "our" problem?

    We're going to quickly approach that problem in the conning years at this current rate, like the obesity epidemic. At some point you can't just dismiss things as personal responsibility when a significant portion of society suffers from it and need to instead look at the underlying systematic issues empowering bad incentives.

    Of course, the US is awful at the latter. So I'm not holding my breath.

These are small problems. Details, even. You can be quite successful and get all that stuff wrong. Not that I'd recommend it.

https://www.theverge.com/gadgets/931347/trump-mobile-t1-phon...

  • People really will take any possible excuse to derail a thread and talk about political figures they don't like, huh?

  • Step 1: develop a cult of personality, to the point of becoming president 2 (even after openly failing to coup a lost election)

    Step 2-3: sell anything to your cult followers, doesn’t matter how good or bad it is

    Step 4: profit

    Simple recipe for success

True. But an organizer who doesn't care, will also not be willing to pay for good artwork. AI haters should put money where their mouths are and fund human top artwork.

  • Posters for small events, a well known space where you will find „top artwork“… you really just need to spend 1h in Inkscape to get something decent

    • You're really overestimating how many people can draw something "decent" in Inkscape. Most likely they will take a template. That's not necessarily better than AI either.

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