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Comment by dcow

20 hours ago

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Generally they do credit the papers and/or people who developed the theory behind their product.

Ideas are cheap. But the ideas are cheap coming from anyone. The reason some ideas (like JEV's) are taking up our attention (as opposed to Laya's) is not because of their execution ability, but because venture funding now is subbing filling in for execution ability. I do understand your argument to this would be - "welcome to the world!" or "that's just how the world works" - but that does not mean we do not recognize the ideas that came well before "venture funding made it happen".

I'd like to remind us all that there is a reason Joseph Liouville took the time to painstakingly review Galois’s chaotic manuscripts to credit him. It matters who did what before everyone else - if you do want to say "ideas are cheap" - we'd need to control for other variables before drawing conclusions.

Researchers definitely do get paid for research. That Google company you mention funds research which can be integrated into their products.

  • Sure, researchers get paid when they either do the research under contract or productize the research and sell it themselves. But they don't usually do the latter because that's quite difficult.

    • Are you grouping academic research funded by grants under the contract category?

      To me, there is a meaningful difference and I'd add a third category, but I can also see the contract angle