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Comment by root_axis

6 hours ago

> Just as a simple example look at the golden ratio in living organisms

What is this example meant to illustrate?

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pixl97  4 hours ago

The golden ratio is one of those things you can study for years and be a amazed by.

>The golden ratio (≈ 1.618) and its related golden angle (137.5°) show up in nature because they maximize space, exposure, and flow.

The golden ratio is an algorithm, but it is also a natural law that systems of many different scales follow. Wherever we look we find examples of it. Without this algorithm the world is a much harder place to explain.

What many scientists starting to look for is these algorithms we have not identified in natural systems as an explanatory means of their workings. Also because they are algorithms they are things we can put into computer systems to increase efficiency, or may naturally emerge from evolutionary learning systems like AI in what we call emegence.

  • esafak  3 hours ago

    The golden ratio in nature is numerology. Biology is beautiful enough in itself without having the golden ratio shoehorned into it. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10792139/

    • pixl97  2 hours ago

      Did you even read what you linked to, or did you just read the headline?

      >There is no convincing evidence that the golden ratio is linked to idealized human proportions or facial beauty. There is currently no evidence to support the use of the golden ratio in orthognathic or facial aesthetic/reconstructive surgical planning or analysis of results.

      This is about peoples faces. What I listed was about things like available surface area for things like chemical reactions and mixing, you know things that are mathematically calculatable. Much in the same manner a hexagon is an optimal low energy shape, hence we see lots of them in nature too.