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Comment by ctrlkctrls

7 hours ago

Judging by Elon's staggering success in all of his ventures I'd say you're out of touch.

Multiple things can be true at once, he can be wildly successful while also undermining democracy.

Think we all can agree he has had staggering successes, but they have all come from having massive capital from Paypal which wasn't anything super innovative, it just solved a convenient problem at a convenient time and was awarded handsomely. Elon has put his capital to work in various ways to become successful, not all of the ways being morally sound.

All except Starlink and Tesla are burning money. I personally don't consider that "staggering success."

He has had many failures, SolarCity and xAI and X and DOGE to name a few, but he has often bailed them out with his larger ventures.

Even with his successes (Tesla, SpaceX) he has built them up in large part by bending levers of government to his advantage.

  • I take issue with your use of the word "bend" here.

    Can you provide specific examples of where Elon has bent the levers of government?

  • > Even with his successes (Tesla, SpaceX) he has built them up in large part by bending levers of government to his advantage.

    So what? Thats called being a maverick. He is very very good at executing on making money which is the point of business.

    • > He is very very good at executing on making money which is the point of business.

      Also pushing technology forward.