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Comment by gslepak

6 hours ago

Does anyone have any experience with Grok's subscription? How does it compare price-wise to the API?

There are some users reporting it improved a lot in the last few weeks. The max sub usage for Grok is around $12,000 of API pricing now, so a 40x multiplier for the $300 plan.

It is the same multiplier for Sol with subscription. For Astra though the multiplier is ≈20x, so half of Sol usage.

For Claude it seems to be ≈40x too for Opus, but less for Fable (similar to Astra in GPT).

All on the most expensive plan. Previously, Grok usage escalated linearly from the $100 plan to $300 plan. That would be a really good $100 plan if it is still true.

Some sources:

1. https://x.com/kunchenguid/status/2098256018836963382

2. https://x.com/stevenzhang/status/2092110386569089311

3. https://github.com/openai/codex/issues/43731

4. https://redd.it/1wciwc1

5. https://x.com/SemiAnalysis_/status/2064815044085318040

6. https://redd.it/1vx0k69

  • Either this is untrue or my account is in some bugged state. I bought the 300 plan 3.5 weeks ago, and found it's usage about 1/10th of others, running out always the first day of usage for the whole week while CC for example would last 2-3 at higher usage.

    It reset just a few hours ago and I've been running it, couldn't be more than 15 sessions none more than an hour long:

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    Session usage: no model calls yet in this session.

    Weekly limit: 46%

    Next reset: September 27, 23:20

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    I actually have to believe my account is messed up tbh, it's so bad. For reference I've ran 12 fable and some ~40 Opus sessions since reset yesterday on a CC account, at least 5x more usage by my estimate:

      Current week (all models)
    
                                           28% used
    
      Resets Sep 28 at 5am (Pacific/Honolulu)
    
    

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    Ok looking at it more, Grok and Grok Build just really suck. They are about 10x less token efficient, often using 200+ tool calls in a row for what are not even big tasks where Opus would use 5-10. Their cache hit rate is worse, and two sessions got into basically unnecessary loops costing a solid quarter of the entire week. And this was on smaller tasks as I tend to use it for easier things.

    • One possible reason is that Grok Bot consumes more quota because it uses their infra instead of your computer.

      I can't help much more than that, I did that research in the last few days, but I never used Grok myself.

      I pay for GPT, Claude and Gemini. Last week I consumed all my quota on two of them, so I wondered which next subscription I would pay for if needed.

I find I can just about get by with coding every day on a Cursor $60/mth sub with Grok fast mode disabled. Doing pretty heavy coding work/requirements etc, but not much sub agents and no loops.

For me and what I’m doing that’s insanely good value.

I find grok build chews through my SuperGrok sub very quick - but I think that is due to it having the 500k context window which uses more credits. Cursor limits it to 256K (tho I see in today’s update for Grok 4.7 there’s now a toggle for context size).

There are two ways to subscribe, and it’s very confusing, but the best value is to get cursor ultra for $200 a month. I basically have infinite tokens with that plan, plus grok bot, which I really like

Well when I ran out of Grok SuperHeavy subscription ($300) once and tried to use extra credits to cover half a day remaining till reset, $50 in extra credits went in two hours. Based on that, subscription definitely lasts longer; Grok subscription just about covers a week of my work (sometimes a bit extra remains unused, sometimes it runs out half a day to a day early). And as a point of comparison, it lasts for doing same tasks as 2.5-3 weekly limits of Codex on 5.6 Sol did (using xhigh on both Sol and Grok); I needed 3x$200 Codex subscriptions to cover my weekly usage.

By far the worst value subscription of any. I tried Superheavy and got about 5-10% the usage of CC/Codex.