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Comment by serbuvlad

8 hours ago

Even if this is true, we must avoid falling into the trap of Kasparov of betting on Centaur Chess.

Just like with Kasparov's Centaur Chess, the idea of a 'human in the loop' is just a necessity due to current limitations.

There will hopefully (?) come a time one day when human beings provide only ultimate value judgments, and everything else is done by machines. Or it may not.

But I don't think betting your ego on the idea that you will be useful in the loop for very long is very wise.

While this is a reasonable analogy, engines became better than humans in the late 1990s, and engines became better than centaurs in the early 2020s. Could AI-powered mathematics improve faster than the ~25 years it took for chess? The AI labs are certainly hoping it does, but that's far from a guarantee.

This is a bit too future-oriented. Let's not mix up current capabilities and speculation about future capabilities. For the time being, collaboration works well. What the future brings is uncertain.

  • I'm still in my 20's so I feel some necessity to be future-oriented.

    I do expect centaurs to outperform other systems for many types of tasks for years to come (and am kind of betting on this to keep getting paid).

    But what I'm talking about is ego. It your ego is tied up with (a) your intelligence or (b) your ability to perform task X; you will probably be humbled this century.

    • Why do you want machines to replace human intelligence and ability? I find that dystopian. AI could have meant Augmented Intelligence (which was proposed a long time ago), not let's see when we can replace all human activity.

      One is humanist, the other is anti-human, (in the end goal at least).

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  • > This is a bit too future-oriented.

    This? Still? After everything?

    Buddy, you're living in the future. In a science fiction novel. Please get used to it.

    • If there is one thing I have realized after reading quite a few science fiction books, it is that I don't want to live in any one them - not one.

      Unfortunately, there are enough people in the world who think that is the future everyone should live in and are actively working to bring it about.

      And so, one must adapt. .

    • It's good to think about where you're going, but you also have to keep track of where you are.

      (Also, getting people to think about the future rather than the present is a classic con. Looking at an empty field: "can't you just see the potential here?")