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Comment by krat0sprakhar

10 hours ago

Can't agree more. Between 5.6 Luna and Gemini 3.8 flash I'm so happy for the value I'm getting for my dollar (subscription pricing not API pricing) :)

Gemini 3.8 Flash looks like its better than v7 Luna/Sol on DeepSWE v1.1 while at $0.75 per million input tokens and $3.75 per million output tokens. Luna is much cheaper, but Flash has nearly Astra's performance for under the price of Sol ($2/$10).

  • TBH: I really like how fast 3.8 Flash is... Once I have clear plan, I feel quite confident in delegating large parts of implementation to Flash and Luna

    • Maddening for a bit - I've got problems that Flash is better on, and some Luna is better on, but I generally don't know until one has wasted time/tokens. Then I switch to the other one and... it's often just... bam - done. Correctly. I can't find the patterns ahead of time to determine what model I should be using first. :/ That said, I've been alternating between both the last month or so and they've both been pretty good compared to earlier models.

  • look at token use, 3.8 flash is a huge token hog compared to openai models

  • Gemini 3.8 Flash and 3.1 Pro are pure rubbish. Very little thinking, mediocre and usually incorrect results. They cannot be compared to frontier models.