Comment by butz

18 hours ago

Very worrying trend is thin scrollbars on websites, or in some rare cases - scrollbar just hidden. Fortunately Firefox has a setting in about:config: layout.css.scrollbar-width-thin.disabled=true .

8 comments

butz

tveyben 8 hours ago

That is so sad!! The larger our screens gets the smaller the scrollbars get, making it at least twice as difficult to use.

Where do you remove the option for me to see how long your (now often AI generated) blog post is just by glancing at the scroll bar, why do you remove it. That’s really crappy UX…

Also - apps (mainly Office 365) no longer use a framework that allows the OS supported use of Accent Color (the thing that allows the active windows toolbar to get a Color that quickly and effectively signals ‘I’m the active one now). No no - I am Office I am so important that I need to always be green (Excel) or blue (Word) etc. No need for you to know if I am the active window or not - you’ll find out when starting to type and the ‘wrong’ windows receives your input!

It seems that there is a design pattern where product owners favor apps to look nice in board room presentations over making them effective to use for professional users (as well as average Joe).

Don’t get me started on the often lack of keyboard shortcuts - just use the mouse (no thanx - way too much clicking, only use mouse where it makes sense, please)…

notafox 14 hours ago

There's also

  widget.gtk.overlay-scrollbars.enabled: false - always show normal scrollbar, don't just expand on hover
  widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.style: (it seems that values 1-5 are allowed)
  widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.size.override: width

Works in Thunderbird too.

Y-bar 2 hours ago

Thank you, that was a small but clear improvement to my browser.

jeroenhd 7 hours ago

I'm not surprised scrollbars are hidden. They're hidden by default on macOS and when you find out that every other OS turns your design into a scrollbar mess, disabling all of them is the quickest fix.

abanana 2 hours ago
A "scrollbar mess"!? That type of designer is exactly the cause of the problem.
Usability breaks the look of my design, so I'll break usability! Obviously it's more important that everyone sees my amazing graphic design skills, than that they can actually use it!
- jeroenhd 2 hours ago
  
  I was referring to this: https://web.archive.org/web/20210409223357/https://svenkadak...
  Usability is one thing, but with Apple hiding scrollbars by default, loads of macOS-designed websites spawn scrollbars all over the place on other platforms because of 1px overflows.

lintfordpickle 3 hours ago

yes, that and I've noticed many scrollbars have very little contrast with the background color, making them ever more difficult for me to see.

PcChip 17 hours ago

yes, I absolutely hate the new trend of tiny slivers that are basically invisible

I just want normal OS-controlled scrollbars everywhere