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Comment by ImJamal

18 hours ago

> What chips are you talking about?

Electronic chips in wind turbines, hydro stations, etc.. Believe it or not but all of these use chips...

> Again, by your definition, almost no country is "sovereign" for anything. Not fossil fuels, not PV and renewables, and certainly not nuclear. It's an impossible standard but only renewables get held to it.

I am not holding renewables to it. The person I was responding to made the erroneous claim that you would be sovereign with renewables. "Renewables are cheap now and they also solve the sovereignty issue." I am just pointing out that most countries wouldn't actually have sovereignty and would still be reliant on other countries.

I am the one holding the consistent standard since I believe most countries wouldn't be sovereign regardless of them using fossil fuels, nuclear, solar, wind, etc.

No one meets the ImJamal Standard of Sovereignty. It's completely useless.

Might as well go with the source of energy that pollutes the least and allows you to be import-free for the longest amount of time - solar, wind, and batteries.

  • The US, Canada, Russia and many other countries could be sovereign with oil and coal.

    China, Brazil, Russia and other countries have a lot of rare earth minerals to build electronics for turbines and other sources of power.

    Australia, Canada, Russia and other countries have a decent amount of uranium.

    So, yes, some countries meet the definition of energy sovereignty.

    • So you think oil and coal doesn't use electronics?

      They use exactly the same stuff. Nearly all power generation is just spinning magnets, obvious exception is PV. There are no particular electronic components you need for wind turbines that you don't also need for a coal or gas fired power plant. Everything uses electronic control systems.

      Why do you people argue so incessantly when you clearly don't know what you're talking about?

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