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Comment by conception

14 hours ago

It was better when they had gemma at 1k. Inco does DS flash at about 600. A few places will do K3 and GLM in the hundreds.

Such a tiny model at that t/s is less impressive than it would have been four months ago.

Lighting my codebase on fire at the speed of light. Like microwaving the spaghetti.

I genuinly only see these speeds being useful for customer service/transactional workflows. Of which much smaller models can do the job (but those dont make tons of money for companies like Cerebras that need to pay off massive amounts of debt).

Nobody needs to code at 600 words per second. Using a 100tps model for an hour or so will leave you with 4-8hrs of code review and revision work.

  • Human code review? What is this, 2025? The modality today is write with one LLM, review by a different one, (important: two different model families will catch errors one series won't) then deploy right to production.

    • > then deploy right to production

      And when things go south, you blame AI?

      I would be very curious to see how you explain it to your customers.

      Is it going to sound similar to this?

      > You see, our well-meaning AI-generated code has caused all your data to be permanently deleted. In case you are confused as to who to blame, we would like to clarify that we did not write, nor review the code. So we cannot possibly bear any responsibility for its mistakes. The responsibility lies with the LLMs, not us. We have already fired the LLM which did the coding and the review. And we are already using their main competitors. Hopefully that settles your concern with the quality of our service and we are looking to have you on board of our next products.

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    • Yeah, idk. I work on serious things. Thats not how I do things. Not everything is webdev hobby projects. There's basically no instance where offloading your code review to an llm is acceptable behavior, except maybe for a one off tool you need personally.

    • And if you tell the reviewer the author is a competitors model it becomes extra snarky and vigilant. Then give the review results to the author and tell it it's from the competition and it will also become slightly outraged.

  • No you dont need to code at 600 w/s BUT at those speeds, you can start doing things like asking multiple different agents the same question and picking the best solution each time without noticing the lag.

  • > Nobody needs to code at 600 words per second.

    I do. I used to use haiku for the speed. Now its just as slow as the rest. Speed is my #1 ranking of how good a model is

    • I prefer a fast model too, but you cannot get more done just because its faster. You just get to the human parts a bit faster. Code review, revision ect.

    • I don't even notice the LLM speed or latency. I think we are as far apart in technique as it gets.

      What is your workflow?

Inco sucks. I tried their GLM 5.3 Flash and it was quantized to the point of hallucinating Chinese in the middle of English only agentic sessions. Never happened with any other provider.