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Comment by godwinson__4-8

3 days ago

This show is trash are you going to recommend I get medical advice from Joe Rogan next?

Non domain expert sitting there making Pikachu face while deeply questionable alleged domain expert rambles on and on for hours is such a low form of information.

Like please stop watching this. It's the same trash format the guy just talks in a soft English accent so his mediocrity is less obvious. You can do better.

What happened to debates? What's up with soft ball interviews and people going on and on for hours unchallenged? What's the point of listening to someone not willing to subject themselves to cross examination?

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Zambyte  3 days ago

You said:

> I haven't seen one convincing model of AI existential risk. Can anyone offer one?

I apologize for answering. This is the only episode of this podcast I have ever watched, and I have watched it four times now. The person being interviewed knows what they're talking about. You would learn from them.

  • kortilla  3 days ago

    But why do you think they know what they’re talking about? That’s the problem with that show. It platforms people with no guardrails to stop quacks.

    • Zambyte  3 days ago

      As much as I hate appeal-to-authority based arguments, it's basically the only way I can see how to answer this without just totally rehashing the things he says in the video. He was an AI forecaster at OpenAI for several years. (I think 2019? to 2024). He quit on the grounds that OpenAI (as well as the rest of the industry) were / are throttling towards RSI irresponsibly, and even refused to sign an anti disparagement clause on exit at the risk of losing 2 million dollars (80% of his family's net worth) so he could talk freely about OpenAI. Now he runs a non-profit that does AI forecasting and advocacy.

      https://www.aifutures.org/

      https://ai-2027.com/

    • ipaddr  3 days ago

      Sometimes the most interesting people are people with ideas outside of the same groupthink circle. Everyone who has changed society has been called a quack by a square.

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  • watwut  3 days ago

    > Joe Rogan was more correct than Fauci's advice.

    No he was not

    • ipaddr  3 days ago

      Dr. Anthony Fauci invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination more than 100 times and declined to answer questions during a heated July 29, 2026, Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee hearing.

      He was wrong about so many things and now refuses to talk. Also got the first pre pardon for crimes undiscovered against him.

  • godwinson__4-8  3 days ago

    Debates can be better than CNN gotcha questions, you know that right?

    At the end of the day a debate is only as good as the interlocutors. I wouldn't advocate spectating two people screaming at each other either.

    It's just sad that I can't even point to an instructive example here. This is part of my frustration. I don't think I've seen a good contemporary debate in a long time.

  • guelo  3 days ago

    I think the reason covid became politicized is the same individualistic vs communitarian tension in all other american politics.

      Individualistic: vaccines don't help the young
  Communitarian: vaccinating everybody creates herd immunity that protects the community
  
  Individualistic: Masks don't protect the wearer 
  Communitarian: Masks reduce the virus the wearer breathes out reducing the harm to others

    On ivermectin Rogan was just wrong.

    On lab-leak, Rogan pushed it hard based only on circumstantial evidence while Fauci thought natural spillover was more likely but didn't rule out lab leak. I don't think we'll ever know for certain.