Comment by TonyStr
9 hours ago
Completely agree. Besides, if clicking above/below the thumb is PgUp/PgDn, that means the buttons get smaller as you get closer to your destination, making them harder to press. Not good UX! The main counter argument to instantly moving I can think of, is that people may miss-click when trying to resize a window, and struggle to find their way back. Maybe a Ctrl-Z for window location history wouldn't be such a bad idea. You could piggyback off Vim's jump list which is navigable with Ctrl-O and Ctrl-I, though I'm sure a lot of applications already register those mappings.
> counter ... people may miss-click when trying to resize a window
That's a counter against another common sin of UI design that's stuck in the past, another superficially appealing idea that requires users hunting for tiny lines for common operations. That one should be fixed instead of making the scroll bar worse. (they even have that whole dedicated "windows" button that doesn't properly manage... windows)
Besides, lack of proper universal undo (that can undo selection/position changes, including windows) is yet another desktop UI design failure. Similarly to what you've noted, the solution to which is yet again fixing that instead of breaking useful functionality in other elements. So maybe it should be Win+Z to undo window resizing/moving?
My windows button properly handles windows. Window + left arrow snaps left. Windows + down snaps it down. Etc… It’s literally the best default window manager any OS has.
Nothing proper about that. Your right hand is on your mouse, which you use to move the window border. What's your Winkey answer to that? The actions you named don't resize in the way you want to and require moving your hand off the mouse to the cursor keys... and then back.
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Leave a visual "shadow" of the scroll knob at the old position every time somebody clicks the bar to jump. Then the user can quickly snap back to where they where.
Then they can also jump back and forth effortlessly between two places in a document.
Seems like a great idea, have any apps implemented it?
Never seen it anywhere, but I think it would be very intuitive and practical.
The only somewhat similar function I've seen is on Kindle when you jump between footnotes or chapters, and they provide a very convenient interface for jumping back, but buttons instead of scroll bars.