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Comment by applfanboysbgon

5 hours ago

GTFO, Russian propagandist. If Russia dislikes the state of affairs there's a reallyyy easy solution: don't invade other countries baselessly. "NATO's proxy war" is a really funny way to describe the Russian war of aggression.

Where's the lie? I said they now see it as NATOs proxy war against them, and western hawks are not shy about talking about it in those terms.

Yeah, they probably didn't expect it to turn into that when they attacked - they probably hoped it'd be all over in a week with a regime change in Kyiv. It's now they're thinking, shit, we were goaded into another Afghanistan. Which again, is not a way western hawks are shy of talking about it.

  • The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was a cakewalk compared to what is going on today. 15k dead in 10 years, and the USSR was twice as big as modern ruzzia, so it is more like 7k dead for ruzzia alone. Now compare that to 4.5 years of the invasion of Ukraine - these wars are on a totally different scale. The Afghan affair was a remote low-profile endeavour; ports and oil refineries weren't burning all over the Soviet Union.

That’s a weird reading of the GP. They only said that Russia views this as a proxy war, which is true.

  • No, they are trying to justify actions against countries that supply arms to Ukraine.

    As I point out in a other thread, supplying weapons is pretty normal and attacking random infrastructure in a country that happens to be allied to Ukraine is a significant escalation.

    • Where do you get this stuff? Only thing they’re saying is that Russia can’t attack Ukrainian weapon or munitions factories like Ukraine does to Russia because there aren’t many of them.

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What about "Russia views it as NATOs proxy war against them now" don't you understand?

Let me highlight the important part "RUSSIA VIEWS IT AS..."

And that's exactly what they communicate towards their population AS PROPAGANDA.

Whether Putin really sees it that way doesn't matter.

And if stating this makes me a Russian Propagandist, then so be it.