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Comment by tecoholic

7 hours ago

Go to gnome.org, scroll down to "Developer Platform" and look at the title bar of the screenshot there. If you see a clean interface, then no reason other people give you will help.

But, if you do see the arrows there and think - why are there so many arrows and dots? It looks like bad UX. They you can see the issues others are talking about.

what an amazing example. We have on one window title bar:

- a "+"

- a down-arrow which presumably opens some sort of menu

- a hamburger menu (why is this different to the down arrow?)

- a "..." menu (err, isn't this the same as the hamburger menu and/or the down arrow?)

- A "hammer" icon next to the word "fetching". Because... Hammer Time! Also, yeah we use a hammer to fetch things. I think that's something we can all get behind.

- another two down-arrows. One probably opens out options for the "hammer" bar. The other...?

- an up and down arrow. Maybe this actually changes the options for the "hammer/fetching" bar.

- A search magnifying glass (no search field curiously).

- A cross.

  • Also, something about "Podcasts" in what is presenting as a Rust IDE. Looking more closely at the rest, I assume this is because it's the name of the project being edited, but it's still confusing. Fundamentally the title bar is being split in two, with a separate part for each main column of the window, as if it were really two windows docked together.

  • And the biggest problem is that most GTK3+ applications have that kind of messy client side decoration. It's completely unusable.

  • I currently have ~12 windows open (Win11 explorer, office, dev / terminal apps, sublime, Firefox, signal) : almost every one of them has a different top bar.

So you have a problem with a particular GTK application? Wow.

How about actually talking about the topic at hand, which is the gnome shell and its UX?