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Comment by ck2

1 day ago

can we get a car that doesn't self-drive or phone-home?

just replace all the gas burning, oil dripping parts

electric cars also produce way less brake dust particulates, so it's a win all around

just stop trying to make a car a smartphone

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reilly3000  1 day ago

At this point I’d pay a significant premium to the dealership and brand that will:

- A. make me an accessor to any datasets (and derivative reports that include my data if you want an extra poisonous pill) that include my data as a full dump and access log of my records and ‘admin’ activities.

- B. Tear out the telemetry hardware, or let me send it to my own endpoint. No satellite access needed. No thanks, driver cam. Who needs LoJack when we have Flock?

- C. Sell a car that’s built to be owned and operated by a human, not an auto brand. If they want to subscribe to some sort of remote assistance subscription, that would be an aftermarket 3rd party device. Open software and hardware within safety protocols increase the value proposition significantly. I would think this is the lowest TCO option, with standard, locally milled parts.

One can dream, right?

someonebaggy  1 day ago

I think that's what Edison Motors is doing but only for trucks? I don't know how they're getting on now. Maybe they already failed.

You could be the first to make one. I've only heard of Edison because of their social media (so maybe a scam) - but they were showing off how they just bought a random truck and replaced the engine as a prototype

asdff  1 day ago

>electric cars also produce way less brake dust particulates

Depends. Compared to a competent driver in a manual transmission, I doubt it. Manual transmission cars can brake with the engine instead of brakes. You also may be on the order of 1-2000+lbs lighter.

Then there's tire dust particulate considerations with the heavier EV with all that torque.

  • Tistron  1 day ago

    From what I've read, EVs mostly break with the engine, and recover quite some of the energy that way. To the point that I've read warnings about the breaks rusting here in south Sweden, and that you need to do some aggressive breaking now and then to clean them out.

    • reverius42  1 day ago

      With my EV I rarely, rarely use the actual brakes. It's almost all engine braking (with power recovery) -- this is how 1-pedal driving generally works in an EV.

  • Sohcahtoa82  1 day ago

    You do know that regen braking is a thing, right? The friction brakes on an EV are basically never applied except in emergencies or at speeds under 10 mph.

    EVs end up with unique brake problems because they get used so little.

    > Then there's tire dust particulate considerations with the heavier EV with all that torque.

    This part is slightly true. EVs are heavier and will wear out tires faster, and if you actually use the extra torque, that'll contribute.

nunez  21 hours ago

i'm actually of the opposite camp...sort of.

I want a dead simple car with the Waymo Driver installed and integrated.

My current car is a 2026 Model Y, but between public transit, Waymo being available in my town, and, soon, me taking possession of a top-of-the-line Brompton electric folding bike, I hardly drive the thing.

When I do drive it, however, I want it to drive itself, since I'm probably driving because I am either (a) going on a road trip that is made more fun by the car driving itself, or (b) am going somewhere that I have to drive to and am wishing the entire time that I wasn't.