Comment by like_any_other
2 hours ago
> Ofc you lead with the softest one
Isn't it great how the judge didn't clarify which ones were illegal? Even when they send you to jail, they won't tell you exactly what is and isn't illegal to say! Meanwhile newspapers and academics and employers can disparage and discriminate against whites as much as they want, and it's never "hate":
Images of whiteness: can we imagine a world without white eyes? - https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2019/dec/11/images-...
The Psychosis of Whiteness by Kehinde Andrews review – provocative but problematic - https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/sep/17/the-psychosis-...
'Abolish whiteness' academic calls for Cambridge support - https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/jun/25/abolish-wh...
How white women use strategic tears to silence women of colour - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/08/how-wh...
The invention of whiteness: the long history of a dangerous idea - https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/apr/20/the-invention-o...
UK Gov Welcomes in Muslim Who Urged “White Genocide” - https://www.frontpagemag.com/uk-gov-welcomes-in-muslim-who-u...
The Labour Party candidate for Clacton, who is standing against Reform Party leader Nigel Farage, once described white man tears as his “favourite drink.” - https://www.thepublica.com/uk-labour-party-runs-anti-white-w...
* Wanting to hire ‘fewer white men’ for a job is not discrimination; An employment tribunal dismissed an unsuccessful jobseeker’s claim that he was rejected because he was a white man* - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/19/wanting-to-hire-...
> We will be a minority in our homeland by 2066
I'm not sure why you included this one. I don't think any of them should be banned, especially in the wake of the estimated 250k predominantly-British victims of predominantly-Muslim rape gangs, but this one is a simple statement of fact, the best estimate given current trends: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/white-briton...
> Maybe you've conveniently forgotten WW2
We fought WW2 so that we could continue to exist as a people. It's the lessons of WW2 (not that they should be needed) that teach us how dangerous such censorship is.
And the men who fought in WW2 for the Allies were pro-segregation and against interracial marriage, maybe you should have talked to your grandparents instead of getting your history from Hollywood:
https://www.afhra.af.mil/Research/Military-Integration/
How do I feel about the country today? My two uncle’s gave their lives for this country, my father’s health was broken from gas in WW1. I did my little bit, my brother did his national service in the Canal Zone in Egypt. What has been our reward? EVERYTHING we fought for has been taken from us and given to foreigners, we are now third rate citizens in our own country. Our enemies rule us from Brussels and we are being colonized by ** and *** in this country. There is not one political party that is prepared to stand up and fight for our country and indigenous population. The holocaust is now being carried out on us. What are my main regrets? That I didn’t fight for Hitler, at least he was for his own people.* - https://archive.org/details/the-unknown-warriors (out of all the testimonies in that book, only about two are positive)
‘Greatest Generation’ runs counter to its wholesome image in survey on race, sex and combat during World War II - https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/12/20/greatest-g...
> Isn't it great how the judge didn't clarify which ones were illegal? Even when they send you to jail, they won't tell you exactly what is and isn't illegal to say!
How many times do I have to reference the Equalities Act 2010 before you actually bother to read it?
> Meanwhile newspapers and academics and employers can disparage and discriminate against whites as much as they want, and it's never "hate"
It's not my fault you don't know what the definition of "whiteness" actually is. I appreciate its not a useful choice of word to use in the modern era, but you need to appreciate it was coined in the 1920s. I trust I don't need to explain to you how that world looked. That a segregated underclass might choose language to describe their oppression that doesn't take into account the feelings of their oppression.
However I do believe that children today use these concepts in a more malicious fashion. The most ugly of which is misunderstanding the sociological idea that "racism without power isn't relevant" and failing to understand it ONLY applies to structural racism and not interpersonal racism. But hey, racist ideas are tempting to everyone I guess, which only goes to show how alike we all actually are.
> I'm not sure why you included this one.
Cos its bullshit and shows people can't count I guess. Also I love how "plurality" is an alien concept that is lost on everyone that talks like that.
> I don't think any of them should be banned
Well tough shit, they are banned because this is a European country and we're not as soft as the yanks are on this, we thankfully still have dread for the spectre of Nazism.
> And the men who fought in WW2 for the Allies were pro-segregation and against interracial marriage, maybe you should have talked to your grandparents instead of getting your history from Hollywood:
Hollywood, do you realise I'm British? Here's[0] the relevant part of history that you clearly have no understanding of. Its an informational film shown to American soldiers when they came over to the UK to prepare for Normandy. I've timestamped the relevant section for you. There's also the "Battle of Bamber Bridge"[1] which shows it play out in real life. There was a stark difference between the US and the UK at that time around the subject of segregation that you are entirely blind to.
What's laughable about Americans is that they're weird about race. Like _really_ weird and they have zero self awareness about it. Nazism is a scourge and if you understood European history and its post war cultural context you'd appreciate that the lessons we took from the war are very different from the ones you've seemed to fixate upon.
Freedom is about not being killed because you're different, not about being free to harass and abuse minority groups.
[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyYSBBE1DFw&t=1520s
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bamber_Bridge