Comment by csa

> Lots and lots of middle management and HR jobs (off the top of my head) are absolutely 0 value add and definitely just leech off of actual labor.

That’s a very engineer type of take.

Both middle management and HR serve roles that are believed to be useful to someone (maybe not you).

Often it is some form of protection by serving as a fall guy or complying with regulations, but it can be other things (e.g., increasing headcount/budget to gain power, etc.).