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Comment by N_Lens

2 days ago

I feel like there's think tanks thinking up talking points that sound reasonable to convince internet communities against taxing the wealthy.

It's the opposite. You've been drip-fed "billionaires cause all the problems" for a few years, and now, as you say, you feel all sorts of things about them, which can rationalise all sorts of bad ideas.

  • Wealth inequality is worse than any other time in human history. What the wealthy and powerful are funding is division, fascism, the far-right and immigrant hate, so that they don't have to pay more taxes. It's the same divide and rule playbook since forever.

    I disagree with you on what is being drip-fed. It's factual that deranged levels of wealth inequality are causing problems, even the billionaire wannabes on HN are starting to see that.

    • > Wealth inequality is worse than any other time in human history

      This is circular. Wealth inequality:

      1. Isn't real. It's a paper value that would not survive contact with reality.

      2. Doesn't matter. What matters is the absolute level of poverty and whether that's getting better. Someone in poverty in the UK today will still get healthcare, eyecare and dental care beyond the dreams of Henry VIII.

      3. Is genuinely a stupid measure. You could "fix" it by burning everyone's possessions until everyone has the same: nothing. Zero inequality, and yet somehow doesn't sound great.

      > What the wealthy and powerful are funding is division, fascism, the far-right and immigrant hate, so that they don't have to pay more taxes. It's the same divide and rule playbook since forever.

      This is just your media consumption showing.

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    • > Wealth inequality is worse than any other time in human history

      And humans are wealthier than any time in history. They have access to robot slaves that can wash dishes and clothes for them. They can access fruits grown over 1000 miles away for 69c. They have potions that can cure cancer. They have the database of all human intelligence in their pocket, accessible from anywhere on the globe. They have individualized transportation that can travel over 2 miles a minute. They have super intelligent thinking machines for cents.

      Life has never been better for mankind.

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It's interesting to see the level of discourse change across time as these same points are brought up again and again.

It seems there are many many more people heavily invested in preventing land tax all of a sudden and are very informed whereas when that guy made a land tax visualizer a few months ago... crickets.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45425770

> but I struggle to even conceptualize what land value means

One of the first comments. Now there are dozens of people who are suddenly well versed in "georgeism"?

  • Narrative control and algorithm driven propaganda is evident - Most people scrolling any kind of algorithmic feed would be shocked at the intimate detail the algorithm knows their mind, proclivities, aversions.

    Another evident thing is that people will start retreating from the internet as this gets worse (With LLMs accelerating the trend).