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Comment by philipallstar

11 hours ago

Nothing has been captured, any more than a company inventing anything has "captured" it.

And there are other companies: Apple, Samsung, Huawei, Tencent MyApp, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Honor, K Telecom T-Store, Jio, MTN Play.

Not even close to a captured utility. And if it were, which state on the planet should own it?

> there are other companies: Apple, Samsung, Huawei, Tencent MyApp, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Honor,

Tell me about the different OSes each of Samsung, Huawei, Tencent MyApp, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Honor etc. run then that we can choose from.

It's like saying Windows doesn't have a monopoly in the PC space because HP, Dell, Lenovo, ASUS.

  • > Tell me about the different OSes each of Samsung, Huawei, Tencent MyApp, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Honor etc. run then that we can choose from.

    Other companies using Google's incredible R&D spend and selling phones that use it is not Google's failing.

    And we're talking app stores. They all have app stores disconnected from Google's app store.

    > It's like saying Windows doesn't have a monopoly in the PC space because HP, Dell, Lenovo, ASUS.

    No, on two counts. One: - and it's the same with Android - Apple exists, and so there's definitely not a monopoly from a lowercase personal computing perspective. Two: the conversation is about app stores. There are many app stores. It's like saying Microsoft doesn't have a PC hardware monopoly because HP, Dell, Lenovo, ASUS.

    • > Other companies using Google's incredible R&D spend and selling phones that use it is not Google's failing

      On the contrary. I disagree.

      It's possible to build something so successful and difficult that it rises to the level of public utility.

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    • > They all have app stores disconnected from Google's app store

      No they don't. Certainly not ones where my bank app or Netflix is. This is being obtuse on purpose.

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  • Except OEMS don't ship Windows forks with their own SDKs, UI frameworks, custom L&F, alternative stores.

    Contrary to Google, Microsoft has a clear position on what OEMs are allowed to do with Windows.

    • Android OEMs largely don't do that either except for some specific markets where Google isn't a thing. Google does have rules for when you want to be certified and have Google Play and Google services on board, which you mostly do in the West and so OEMs comply.

      Sure, they may ship a Samsung skin or preload some of their own junk, same as on Windows. That doesn't make what they ship a different OS.

      The one exception would be HarmonyOS, but that's somewhat China specific.

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You're deluding yourself.

Pretending, some other company could come stroll along and take over Google's turf, completely ignores the underlying reality.

People don't talk on two phones at once, they only use one search engine regularly and they even only use one browser to surf the internet.

That bottleneck leads to market capture due to inevitable logical reasons, not because I say so.

If you want autonomous states, each one has to control their own infrastructure. Just don't forget to question your assumptions.

  • Ad blocking is what cements googles place.

    But try telling the internet that their "morally pure" addiction to skirting compensation is actually what is killing (killed?) the web.

    Every competitor dies in the cradle because 40% of the internet won't pay them while using their service.

    Youtube with ad-blocking is the best video service on the internet, and no one can touch that.