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Comment by joenot443

21 hours ago

> What very impressive externally verifiable results have you had with this?

I notice this weird hostility whenever the topic of AI coding comes up and it's never made much sense to me. If someone told me about their new method for practicing guitar I'd feel like a real tool if I demanded they prove it for me then and there.

People don't owe you their "very impressive externally verifiable results" - /u/XCSme already posted their app in another comment, it looked fine to me.

You've made your ideological position very clear here, you don't need to keep heaping it on.

More like, if someone told you their workout program that takes 5 minutes a day lets them lift the same weights as an average Olympic weightlifter, you'd ask to see the results.

I don’t care what somebody believes about the pile of code they’ve got sitting on their own computer. The appropriate level of engagement is sort of: well, they don’t owe us any evidence we don’t owe them any credulity, and if we’re all happy to ignore each other that’s fine.

I can see why some folks here want to quibble, though. In other comments in this thread, they’ve compared to code quality favorably to the output of an average developer. That’s slightly insulting to the field in general (although, I guess most programmers have a low opinion of average code quality).

If someone tells us about their new method for practicing guitar, it is very natural and not at all a toolish behaviour to hand them a guitar and say “go on, play us something”.

In fact it’s actually a very socially agreeable action, as it gives them the opportunity to show off their new skills without them looking like they’re bragging.

Now, if you happen to know for a fact that the guy cannot actually play guitar, then you’re just setting him up to embarrass himself, which is maybe an extreme punishment for the relatively minor crime of spouting some bullshit. I could buy that that is hostile, sure.