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Comment by chii

11 hours ago

you have the choice not to purchase burgers from dairy queens, but from macdonalds, or five guys, or wataburger.

You don't have a real choice in an app store on android (except recently, and even then, the alternative stores don't behave well for google-based apps).

That's why it's not a tax when you choose to buy DQ burgers, but a tax when you choose to deploy an app to google app store.

If there's no other burger joint in the small town it's the only place I can get burgers.

I agree Google is using a tax here but the rule you suggested doesn't work

  • Your town prohibits you from making your own burger?

    Because burger meat is commonly sold in the smallest of grocery stores, and is not technically dependent on what buns, sauces, tomatoes, lettuce … or other ingredients you pair them.

    And you can grow your own veggies, and bake your own bread.

    It is an entirely componentized market. No gatekeepers.

    Even single groceries in tiny towns continue having to compete with larger stores in bigger towns. Because they carry small selections most people make the drive to load up their larder regularly.”

    You need to find an example that matches the point you are trying to make.

    TLDR: Analysis reveals burger markets are nearly perfect economic opposites of centralized app store markets.

> You don't have a real choice in an app store on android

You do, and you also can pick iPhone. Or not a smartphone. Or not use apps.

> (except recently, and even then, the alternative stores don't behave well for google-based apps).

Google provides planetscale services like Google Maps for free and you want to build apps that use their services but not pay them 15% for their store, and still complain they don't work perfectly? You seem to be outsourcing a lot to Google but expect to give them nothing in return.

  • Bringing up Google Maps here does nothing for your point because on web or native mobile you pay money to use the API for Google Maps (outside of the store fee). Offering a free version to end users does financially benefit Google.

    There are numerous examples of people needing a smartphone to do things in their daily lives. I’ve read compelling stories of people who ran into trouble after ditching their smartphone.

    There are lots of parallels to the railroad monopolies. Choice is not as available as you say it is.

    • > Offering a free version to end users does financially benefit Google.

      How so?

      > I’ve read compelling stories of people who ran into trouble after ditching their smartphone.

      It'd be helpful if you mentioned them instead of just saying everyone should trust that you were compelled by stories.

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  • Google maps makes money through its API as well as accepting sponsored results to appear before correct results.

    I'd agree you have a choice with 3rd party stores but they're working on limiting/killing those tiny markets, already.

  • > and you also can pick iPhone.

    "Reee!! It's not a monopoly!!! It's a duopoly!!!!" screeched the pedant.

    > Or not a smartphone. Or not use apps.

    "Submit to the duopoly or else you're not allowed to develop for the most common consumer computing device on the planet"