Comment by beepbooptheory
15 hours ago
It's a small tangent but I am constantly taken aback by just how much the discourse here has slid from nerdom to dorkeyness. All the talk here used to be pendantic and technical and overly complex nerd speak, always stuck in the process itself, feeling above being a 'user', etc.
Now everything is just like above, dorkspeak. Where it reminds me so much more of kids arguing in the playground about "who would win in a fight Darth Vader or Batman"; or console-vs-PC debates. Everything is about the genuine complexity of navigating certain products, of being first and foremost a consumer of something and putting all your energy into comparing various things you are free to choose from.
Its not even like its less techincal, or more mean now, or anything like that. It's just very different and I know its been a while but it feels like it happened overnight.
I call it the redditification of HN. The trend has been massively increased with Corona, and now post AI it's essentially the norm.
People can't even discuss about any politics anymore.
Back in Obama's days there were always interesting discussions in the political threads and they were rarely insta flagged. And it was mostly nuances wrt business needs and what that means for our societies. The PRISM news also frequently got heated, and still stayed somewhat technical.
Extremely noticable compared to the platform it is today.
Tbf though, HN always had a few topics it was extremely irrational about.
Eg Apple since the start and Musk post 2012...
> I call it the redditification of HN.
As one of the users that moved to HN when Reddit closed access to third party apps it’s also quite literally this. I apologize for any reduction in quality of discourse I might have caused.
What made you want to move over? Are you just desperate for a venue to talk, desperate enough that if your venue of choice changes its API you'll go to another place with other norms?
>It's a small tangent but I am constantly taken aback
I'm amused by your surprise.
>Its not even like its less techincal
I'd wager that, actually, it is less technical. We constantly see otherwise very techinical people here poking their heads up and admitting that they haven't been writing any code for 6 months or more, and the ones that brag about it are seemingly unaware that they've been reduced to being a technical PM (the ones that contest this probably havent worked with capable technical PMs). No one wants to engage with vibe-coded Show HN entries because the poster may not grasp the implementation. No one appears to be doing (or sharing) anything super novel with all this coding superpower they have suddenly attained so there's nothing technically interesting to talk about. The last time I found an AI application submission interesting was the one where the person was trying to turn their pet's random keyboard typing into a language (if I remember correctly).
If the guidelines banned any AI comments that didn't preface their comment with the model and version of AI they used, their application domain, and the programming language being used I'm sure there would be less contentious dorky debate and more technical/practical discussion.
And since many here don't see the endgame with AI resulting in anything good for their career or society, like the endless remote work debates, they comment because from a strategic point of view they do not want to cede the narrative to the other side on such an important topic. understandably. hence more dorky debates.
> No one wants to engage with vibe-coded Show HN entries because the poster may not grasp the implementation.
> No one appears to be doing (or sharing) anything super novel with all this coding superpower they have suddenly attained so there's nothing technically interesting to talk about.
You don’t see a relation there?