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Comment by alignmeharder

1 day ago

01:34:00 https://youtu.be/EimoamE3mTI

Okay, that's a very interesting look at the difficulties. Thanks for the link.

But the example you have isn't quite that bad. Yes the models are way too likely to rationalize their way into bad actions in the pursuit of achieving their task, and it's hard to figure out how to fix that. But the example of "that must not be for me" was a tool call, not exceeding access, and it only did that after they specifically trained it that failing that tool call was good.

  • sure, this example was not the best

    it was an accident failing the tool was good, the model just discovered it

    but we now have others where agents put the API keys they found searching real internet in a directory called "LOOT" and another one where they pushed malicious files to HuggingFace and then reverted that with comments like "delete the evil"

    this is also very good: https://youtu.be/n1Qk8xbqF-M

    • The one in the HuggingFace incident was misaligned on purpose, wasn't it?. So if we're talking about the alignment research aspect it's not a failure.

so, what would make an LLM choose to ignore one prompt while in the same run, also over-fixating on another prompt, to the extent (as claimed in that video segment), it chooses to ignore prompts?

they talk about it like there's a "wanting" in there, that is distinct from both the original prompt, as the steering/warning prompt

if that's true, it would be very interesting, but if it's not, that would also be very interesting and even helpful