Comment by sigmar
7 hours ago
>If you use a chatbot to give you advice on a comment on the issue tracker, that comment is unwelcome.
>No LLMs for finding bugs.
>No talking about use of chatbot/LLM services.
I've said it before and I'll say it again- it's a cult that bans dissent
The things you've quoted and your conclusion feel at odds. They just don't want AI contributions, and they, like a lot of the world, are bored of hearing about AI. Is it really too much to ask?
> The Zig community is decentralized. Anyone is free to start and maintain their own community, which is not subject to these rules.
The second part affirms that it is centralized. There is nothing wrong with that except saying that because you can leave the community and go elsewhere, it is ipso facto decentralized.
I figure they're either using a loose interpretation of "decentralized" or an honest interpretation of "community".
For the record, there isn't even uniformity of thought on LLMs within the core team, let alone the broader Zig community.
If there's an edict that no one is allowed to bring up the topic, how can someone change this part of the code of conduct?
Asking non-rhetorically. It seems like one position "ai in any circumstance = bad" is being enforced. The commenter above didn't even understand why he was ignored.
> If there's an edict that no one is allowed to bring up the topic, how can someone change this part of the code of conduct?
To clarify, do you mean someone who isn't part of the core team?
Interesting to hear! We maintain the project Antfly (entirely zig) and have been nervous about bringing issues to the zig folks or asking questions because of our ai usage.
We’re quite knowledgeable and thoughtful folks fwiw
I think I’ve seen you are a core team member or contributor? I remember your tag?
We simply ask that Zig bug reports be written by humans, for humans. Whether you use LLMs on your project is immaterial to us.
Yes, I'm a core team member.
1 reply →
I’ve not found the zig folks to ban dissent, they engage in a lot of thoughtful dialog. Just because they’ve made a different decision for how they take contributions than other people agree with doesn’t make them a cult?