Comment by ryandrake
4 hours ago
For those of you who don't read NTSB reports as a hobby, know that Preliminary reports generally do not assign probable cause or list contributory findings. They're usually just full of basic, factual information like the date, time, location, weather, info about the aircraft and pilot, and so on. So don't go into the PDF thinking you're going to learn the cause of the crash.
While this is generally true and having read this report I do not believe it to contain any new material information related to the probable cause, it continues to paint the picture of the captain making a pretty big series of mistakes.
It really sucks that the FO could not intervene further as he clearly identified the problem and articulated the solution.
I certainly doubt there will be a satisfying ending to this one.
> It really sucks that the FO could not intervene further as he clearly identified the problem and articulated the solution.
First officer could have easily intervened, all they needed to do was call for a go-around. If the captain wouldn't initiate a go-around(AFAIU typical airline policy from my understanding is that if either pilot calls for a go-around then they must initiate a go-around) after being called for by the FO they should have initiated one themselves. The events from the CVR show only the captain ever called for a go-around after it was too late.
The CVR transcript is pretty damning I'm not sure what new details you expect them to uncover.
The alerts from the GPWS below 1000' signify an unstable approach, you go around, the end.
What they will investigate is the why they did not go around, but it's largely irrelevant.
It would be irrelevant if the pilots died, however, since they survived and potentially will continue flying, the why is relevant to not do it again
I found the timeline of events from the flight data recorder to be fairly suggestive of a likely conclusion.
Though that's as a lay-person; I am not a pilot but would love to hear if the seemingly obvious issue is the likely root cause.
This one is blindingly obvious. Appalling airmanship, just like it reads.
Touching down 2/3rds of mile down the runway at around 25 knots over Vref. That was never going to go well.
Well yeah the report is not a bunch of nothing also. NTSB usually takes 12+ months to complete their investigation so they release a preliminary report within a month of the incident usually to share relevant factual information. But the investigation remains ongoing so they have the time to check all angles and come up with final conclusions.