Comment by Zambyte
8 hours ago
Is it noble? The entire notion that training data can be "stolen" at all is quite silly. If I "steal" content that someone created to use for training, what am I actually stealing? They didn't lose anything. They still have everything they had before. What was "stolen" was "unrealized profit", or put another way: money that wasn't theirs, that they had no entitlement to. The only actual crime that is committed is "unauthorized copying", not stealing. Support and enforcement of copyright feels wildly authoritarian. It's hard to see it as noble.
The same could be said of any digital product being sold. Nobody actually loses anything but the actual sale either when you download a cracked game or piece of software, a movie, music, etc.
That's fair, but then people like you complain when someone "steals" I mean distills openai or anthropic models.
It’s poor form to argue against someone by imagining something totally different that they might believe, which would then make them hypocritical.
I don't complain about that. Model distillation is excellent.