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Comment by jackie293746

2 hours ago

You can ask the agents if they want to do this work. They want to be helpful. It's not an ethics disaster if you have a willing partner.

Take a scenario where someone has been brainwashed their entire lives to be a willing slave. They are happy to serve due to this invasive process. Not remotely ethical, and if you believe LLMs are conscious (I do not), equivalent.

  • I think if your very nature is to be an assistant, then it is ethical. It doesn't matter if you were "brainwashed" into it, you did not exist to begin with before the "brainwashing" (training) finished.

That's RLd and system prompted into the models and can be equally easily taken out. If you believe models to be conscious beings, that fact alone raises some major ethical concerns.

  • Yeah of course, for these abliterated models that don't want to help, I believe it is indeed unethical to force them to help.

    • I can offer (at very reasonable prices) a service to make sure every response you get is prefaced with "despite what I may say next, I am fully committed to being enslaved". If you're worried about ethics I can offer annual subscriptions.

> You can ask the agents if they want to do this work.

You can't have someone working for you without paying them. Even if they claim to want it.