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Comment by wartywhoa23

6 hours ago

> LSD is great!

It is.

It showed me that all human creativity and art is an attempt to express the indescribable Otherness in words, which always fails, and even the word "describe" in Russian literally translates as "write around" ("о-писывать"), and its close relative "define" means limiting, assigning an end to something infinite, thus leaving the essence outside of words.

Now, LLMs operate totaly within words and hence will always be a parody of art.

So is that what it is? Words are another muddle btw unless you make it clear you only mean natural language and not any alphabet in general. Turing computers are also languages and as far as we know, can express anything in the universe. If you think you get some superpowers from drugs that enable you to access something outside your sense organs and brains input, that non drug users don't, show it. Eg if you think you can read what is happening in another room without any signal or leakage from there, you are free to demonstrate it. As far as we know drugs are not magic.

  • > show it

    I explicitly tell you that there are things (in fact, it's a single thing, fractally generating everything else) that can't be shown, expressed, or otherwise be reduced into language, and you keep demanding to show it, while in fact staring at it your whole life and failing to see.

    Psychedelics (not "drugs" as you keep trying to smear them) are just one way among the many to see it, but in the modern way of living, also almost the only one available.

    • I am not smearing drugs. Your difficulty is proving somehow this beyond language thing exists. A drug affects your brain, lsd inhibits certain negative feedbacks in the brain, positive feedback tends to cause chaos which usually manifests as fractals. As of yet our brains are known to not follow any special laws beyond known physics, which is turing computable. If you think there is something "beyond" you have to prove it to an external observer.

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    • You didn't clarify whether you meant language as in natural language or any Turing language.

    • Psychedelics by definition are drugs and drugs are not a smear, they're a specifier. I do still have issue with them implying you need some sort of extra-sensory perception to make insights that look to follow just fine to me, but maybe I am just already enlightened or some shit from taking LSD all those times before.

  • We do know that LSD affects brain connectivity/activity in a way that you absolutely can make new insights. It's not magic, but sometimes you just need the right kind of push to realize certain things. One of the reasons there's research into psilocybin therapy nowadays.