A normal conspiratorial comment about the cure for cancer being kept secret would have been downvoted into oblivion, but sprinkle in some spooky AI stuff and suddenly it's fine
In the interest of steel-manning, I think it’s not about a cure being kept secret but rather non-elites being stripped of the leverage they would need to access it.
That is ridiculous. You cannot withhold something like an effective cure for cancer from broad adoption, and thinking you can is just conspiracy bullshit. Imagine an internal OpenAI model develops it tomorrow. Would everyone of the thousands of OpenAI scientists get in on the conspiracy to keep it secret, even though many of them probably know someone dying from cancer right now? Obviously not.
I'm sorry, do you understand how the medical industry works? It wouldn't be one cure, it's going to be dozens of treatments, each of which will be incredibly expensive.
Or else how do you explain Danyelza? Used to treat neuroblastoma, costs upwards of $1m per year. Do you have any proof that this will be different?
You're calling realistic people conspiracy theorists. Whose side are you on?
The medical industry makes medicines very expensive because they include the enormous costs of research. If AI makes research much cheaper, then medicines will get cheaper too.
I'm also against absolutely anyone who asks me "whose side I'm on" as part of an argument.
> I'm sorry, do you understand how the medical industry works?
Yes, I actually work in the medical industry. There is no hiding the cure for cancer.
> Or else how do you explain Danyelza? Used to treat neuroblastoma, costs upwards of $1m per year. Do you have any proof that this will be different?
Oh, you are American. Let me tell you a secret: the problems of your healthcare insurance system are not a worldwide phenomenon, nor an immutable fact of this universe. Perhaps the cure for cancer, if expensive, will not be easily available to the poorest Americans, at least initially (the cost will come down sooner or later). But that is a very different claim from "they'd never give it to you".
A normal conspiratorial comment about the cure for cancer being kept secret would have been downvoted into oblivion, but sprinkle in some spooky AI stuff and suddenly it's fine
In the interest of steel-manning, I think it’s not about a cure being kept secret but rather non-elites being stripped of the leverage they would need to access it.
You were never stripped of anything
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That is ridiculous. You cannot withhold something like an effective cure for cancer from broad adoption, and thinking you can is just conspiracy bullshit. Imagine an internal OpenAI model develops it tomorrow. Would everyone of the thousands of OpenAI scientists get in on the conspiracy to keep it secret, even though many of them probably know someone dying from cancer right now? Obviously not.
I'm sorry, do you understand how the medical industry works? It wouldn't be one cure, it's going to be dozens of treatments, each of which will be incredibly expensive.
Or else how do you explain Danyelza? Used to treat neuroblastoma, costs upwards of $1m per year. Do you have any proof that this will be different?
You're calling realistic people conspiracy theorists. Whose side are you on?
The medical industry makes medicines very expensive because they include the enormous costs of research. If AI makes research much cheaper, then medicines will get cheaper too.
I'm also against absolutely anyone who asks me "whose side I'm on" as part of an argument.
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> I'm sorry, do you understand how the medical industry works?
Yes, I actually work in the medical industry. There is no hiding the cure for cancer.
> Or else how do you explain Danyelza? Used to treat neuroblastoma, costs upwards of $1m per year. Do you have any proof that this will be different?
Oh, you are American. Let me tell you a secret: the problems of your healthcare insurance system are not a worldwide phenomenon, nor an immutable fact of this universe. Perhaps the cure for cancer, if expensive, will not be easily available to the poorest Americans, at least initially (the cost will come down sooner or later). But that is a very different claim from "they'd never give it to you".
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