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Comment by abdullahkhalids

6 hours ago

This is an equivalent of a company producing security software, open sourcing their code, and then claiming that since no one has found any serious bugs, their software is secure.

No. The way to build confidence that your software is well made, you do a proper external security audit and obtain the requisite certificate from a proper auditing firm.

It's also incorrect to think peer review in mathematics is low quality (like it is in some other fields). Certainly, when major results are in place, editors ensure that high quality peer reviewers are recruited and do their job properly. Like all human processes this fails sometimes, but not enough to not do it.

>then claiming that since no one has found any serious bugs, their software is secure.

which specific openai statements does this part of your analogy map to?

in the "sharing ai progress in mathematics" blog, openai simply says "results", and never once claims that all of them are unquestionably true. instead, they state they want to evaluate the results. their github states that the results are "different stages of verification" and also says "Some of the unformalized results could have issues"

that is the opposite of "claiming [...] their software is secure", to use your analogy.

I didn't say peer review is low quality; just that it's not necessary or sufficient to determine the truth. Ultimately the OpenAI proof stands or falls on things that have been audited externally, namely the formalization of the problem in Lean and the correctness of the Lean software. There's no incentive for OpenAI to submit to a peer-reviewed journal when they don't need to play the academic prestige game. TFA is an example of peer review in action: they're analyzing the proof and finding points to criticize.