Comment by thepasch
4 hours ago
This is them sneaking in taking the Claude Agent SDK (claude -p) off of subscription plans through the back door along with a model release. They previously wanted to do this in June, but backpedaled after huge backlash:
https://support.claude.com/en/articles/15036540-use-the-clau...
I hope people notice again that this is happening this time around.
Being forced through the non-OSS Claude Code with all of its quirks and issues is... such an exhausting use of force by Anthropic.
To the extent that you _can_ choose to disable telemetry and training on your traces in CC, it's not all that obvious what they gain by crippling your ability to use the subscription with other – better – tools.
It's also remarkable that it's coincident with OpenAI adding "Sign in with OpenAI", so that you can use your tokens with other tools.
Sorry that that help center article was misleading; we’ve updated it to clarify that `claude -p` has not been removed from subscriptions as part of this change!
That's super encouraging to hear, thank you for the clarification! I'd edit my original comment, but the edit window has unfortunately run out on it. Should be OK, though, since the help desk page is now explicit about it.
They changed this from earlier today... It's still very confusing.
The page does not say anything about changing the way Agent SDK bills. I just tested Agent SDK and nothing has changed (yet).
You might be right and they will change this in the future, but that's speculative
> Claude Max and Team plans now include monthly API credits, which cover the Claude Agent SDK, the Claude API, and Claude Managed Agents.
This text has replaced the entirety of the page called "Use the Claude Agent SDK with your Claude plan."
Yes. Previously the page was all about how they were going to start charging for Agent SDK use with a banner on the top saying that, actually, they weren't going to do that.
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Those mfers. I'm using this for work! I use my work teams plan with pi so I can do all kinds of custom workflows that I can't in Claude Code. Time to convince management I need OpenAI instead.
Time to convince management (and yourself) to build some skills. :)
Spent many years building skills, I'm just working on a different level now.
Even after the June changes there was some allowance to use agent SDK on the pro plan. This will move me to codex tomorrow if agent SDK is really blocked on pro
How credits work with `claude -p` is a common question. we're updating the faq now to make sure it's more clear
Update: We just updated the docs to clarify how API credits can be used w/ claude -p: https://support.claude.com/en/articles/15036540-use-the-clau...
Nothing is being removed as part of this!
*For now. If a company were to degrade something, it shouldn't be so obvious that the "goodwill" was just a reallocation. Just a good strategy. For example, it allows them to claim that they're "just going from 150% to 125% usage allowance, which is still more than 100%".
These are api tokens, you can build a business with them using any harness.
Yes, but they're wildly lower in value than the corresponding subscription usage.
Do we know if claude -p is now drawing from this API usage?
How credits work with `claude -p` is a common question we're seeing. we're updating the faq now to make sure it's more clear. Will share updated docs soon
Update: We just updated the docs to clarify how API credits can be used w/ claude -p: https://support.claude.com/en/articles/15036540-use-the-clau...
Not yet, as of version 2.1.293. But I suspect this is coming next.
That's what the Agent SDK is, according to this help page:
https://code.claude.com/docs/en/headless
So, as written, yes.