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Comment by nkrisc

3 hours ago

Considering that’s a healthy portion of a salary for an additional employee per person, the fact they’re slashing spending sure makes it look like AI wasn’t even a 2x multiplier at minimum.

You could only conclude that if they would have dropped LLMs completely. It just means they see the benefit/cost optimum at a lower point than 100k/programmer.

I also doubt a longterm 2x multiplier for most developers.

  • Even if it was a net negative, you still might want to titrate the exit a bit just to prevent the total chaos of broken workflows. Can't really draw the conclusions you want to draw.

  • I don't think you need the LLMs to be completely dropped to indicate this. Even entry-level faang programmer salaries are in the 300k range, so the fact that LLMs aren't worth 100k/programmer does tell us something about the marginal usefulness. If the drop was motivated was motivated purely by price-per-output, it would indicate the LLMs are less useful than adding another 1/3 engineer. However, as discussed in other comments, there are other motivations as well, notably dogfooding homegrown tooling.

We're sitting on a year of more or less capable coding models and I have not exactly seen a revolution in new software being released. AI is likely a force multiplier for specific subsets of individuals and workflows. Coding is not a bottleneck for a lot of systems.

I suspect that SaaS is silently being eaten alive as an industry.

  • I think SaaS will be fine. How the field works might change, but in the end marginal cost of software is still zero and when you've got a quality, well-tested and well-designed product it's going to be obviously better than things vibed together.

  • You often pay for regulatory compliance and liability with SaaS. Would you risk running your own vibe-coded payroll or accounting system for your company?

    • Yep. The SaaS-is-doomed crowd are missing this part. It's the Red Hat model (debatable how well they do it, but they exist, so..)

  • Talk to the emulator community. Huge leaps being made there. Or binary decompiling topics. Huge leaps there. There is more than web applications

    • Can you link to some of the huge leaps in emulators and binary decompilation that have caught your attention?