Comment by andriy_koval
1 day ago
> No it didn't.
It did, but as wikipedia says they updated press release on Sep 10.
Now, its up to audience if they want to believe OAI that they really performed thorough investigation in just one day to rule out what they couldn't rule out in preparation of initial release.
> OAI that they really performed thorough investigation in just one day
This is pretty reasonable - they had to look at exactly what the cutoff for the models used was, and what data sources at what date. It's not hard if you own the systems.
> they couldn't rule out in preparation of initial release.
The press release was pretty obviously written prior the other claims being released, and the "We (the researchers and the agents) did not see any of their work through any means until they released it publicly ..." line was clearly inserted at the last moment.
I agree they should have been more rigorous about checking this before releasing.
> The press release was pretty obviously > line was clearly inserted at the last moment.
I don't like how you layering speculations on top of speculations on top of speculations.
and I don't like how you imply that OpenAI's timeline is somehow unreasonable.
In any case, it's not speculation on speculation. The only speculation is my guess that this statement was a last minute addition, and that is born out by the timeline:
September 6: "After the completion of our full project and Lean verification (on September 6th), believing from the rumor they also had a solution of Navier–Stokes, we reached out to them to offer a concurrent release of our result" (from the press release)
Sep 7: Unknown, but we know there were phone calls and discussion
Sep 8: Buckmaster statement drops (the statement is undated, but this post is 13:28 Sep 8) https://mastodon.social/@tristanbuckmaster/11723341370570119...
Also Sep 8: The OpenAI press release.
I don't think it's speculation to say there was lots of rushed decision making there, and my speculation is that OpenAI didn't know Buckmaster was going to accuse them of using his transcripts in their work until his statement came out.
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