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Comment by dirkc

4 hours ago

Wouldn't a decline be good? Or is the theory that we can only do collapse, not decline?

Depends how it's done I guess. France has a decent population tower, for lack of a better expression:

https://www.populationpyramid.net/france/2026/

If they keep it up, their population will remain stable up to the 22nd century. There will be no further noticeable ageing and thus no threat to anyone's retirement.