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Comment by midnitewarrior

7 hours ago

If the talent can't come to Microsoft, Microsoft will offshore near the talent.

The issue is they might run out of normal countries. In developing countries they would quickly become target of local corrupt officials. They would basically suck out whatever they can from companies that would attempt to do billion dollar business there. You can think of them as some mob from mafia movies. There is no way Microsoft would prefer to deal with that kind of folk instead of just hiring American people

  • Microsoft is located in Bangalore and Hyderabad. Both of those cities are not exactly known for their corruption. If you want corruption, then Delhi is your best bet.

  • What if the bribes are still cheaper than paying a US citizen? It would still be cheaper than hiring a Us citizen I think

Pretty much all Big Tech already have offices in Europe, Latam, India...

  • In only a few countries in LATAM and Europe, in LATAM they are only present largely for sales but no development. I would guess the same is the case in Europe

I entirely agree. They are looking at many countries like those in Latin America, to hire cheaper labor there either vis local subsidiaries or local outsourcing/consulting firms

Ya big tech firms are hiring like crazy in Canada but mostly offshore talent not local talent

  • Mind sharing a source? Anecdotally, the Canadian job market is brutal (barring some sectors)

    • I worked at MS Vancouver office in 2019, majority was people with visa issues to US. Even I was Canadian from Ontario who ended up there because I couldn't get visa to move to SF

All you have to do is go look at their active GitHub projects. Azure projects, etc.. Take a look at who is doing the work and where they live.

Yup.

Generally I would rather them offshore talent than bring in foreign workers to our soil. I would make an exception for the actual exceptional people we need for jobs but not for the run of the mill developers or whatever we seem to be bringing in by the truckload.