Comment by schmoooo
1 day ago
yeah, absolutely false.
paul pfrazees beaker browser was just one of many dat ecosystem proje ts even though a popular one. keet is also a dat ecosystem project.
quibble is just the latest addition and linked elsewhere in this thread and an open source version of keet.
there is an active dat rust implementation.
you also have a sql relation database primitive on top of dat and the hyper stack now
and datweb will be released soon.
at proto has nothing to do with p2p at all and its just pfrazee who moved on.
the holepunch company mainly focuses on building the closed source keet app and the bare and pear runtime to make it easy to built cross platform p2p application.
they also maintain a lot of the underlying hyper stack that has grown and matured and is essentially the foundation of dat ecosystem, but there are many projects.
you also have an interview of mathias buus presenting holepunch/keet on the dat ecosystem blog, so sadly your view seems quite distorted for some reason, ...unless you are getting paid to plug at proto
"yeah, absolutely false" is offputting to read, especially when you're not contracting anything said there. you're confirming a bunch of it, and adding more.
as a reader with only a little emotional investment here (but some), i want to tell you your message would spread much better if you could shape it some other way. your post has a lot of good material. but man that is really not fun to read, couched so adversarially.
this is something i work on myself. often i think there is real reason to take a person to task, and to respond strongly, but trying to keep the broader audience in mind. and: i don't think that was the case here.
fair enough, i take it.
unfortunately open source is unthankful and if you work on something novel and different its even harder, so if anyone secures funding by compromising and then using that to spread different marketing it can be very frustrating.
the thread started woth the post of the dat ecosystem website.
...since then it was declared dead by some. then at proto was framed as some sort of "successor. then iroh used the opportunity to plug their project.
all of them with their own marketing budget and funding, so this makes it really tough for very passionate and personally invested open source community with no VC funding
so fai enough, a calmer answer would read nicer, but its not always easy.
...if you are interested in more particular issues i can of course elaborate and provide more details - technically or otherwise.
cheers
It sounds like you are more tapped into this space than me. I'm not trying to push any angle. Apologies if it sounded like I was trying to diminish dat or other projects. I think all of these projects are interesting
A few years ago, I was pretty excited about this but just as a casual observer. I'm out of the loop now
I'd be interested to hear what projects you think are the most exciting to follow these days
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