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Comment by firstplacelast

3 hours ago

Even before this current AI wave and awful economy/hiring environment, corporations have been turning their noses up at workers. When there were "jobs a plenty", you only need to speak to anyone in the industry to see how much talent is overlooked because they can. Corporations and the economy at large should work for the people, we should not be burning down the lives of citizens to grow the economy at all costs.

Here is the evidence that even 10 years ago there was way more talent ready-to-go and easily cultivated talent that could be honed with a few weeks or months of training: ATS keyword gaming (make sure you have the right SQL/Java version mentioned), need to lie about your exact stack to get an interview, hiring gauntlets where it's "a numbers game" and you go around and around till you get just the right leet-code questions that you happened to already know, age-ism where anyone over the age of 40 is worried about a lay-off and never getting back into the industry because corps/hiring managers only want younger for technical work. All of those anecdotes, which anyone whose been in this industry is deeply familiar with, points to an absolute glut of talent even in employee-friendly times.

I'm all for H1B's and bringing in foreign talent, I'm also all for holding corporations accountable and ensuring they don't get a pass to treat humans and labor as disposable. If a large corporation can bin resumes because they don't match a plethora of exact keywords and if they don't want to train for even a few weeks and need someone to "hit the ground running", they are drowning in too much talent.

I'd prefer to discuss data over anecdotes, but oh well... I can bring anecdotes of my own! Which have the benefit of actually aligning with the data!

Specifically, a decade+ of industry experience interviewing countless candidates (hundreds, personally) for FAANG-level salaries, regardless of visa status or any other criteria, and still struggling to hire talent, which put major crimps on our roadmaps. And hearing the same from peers and leaders in the industry, in private and in public as well as right here on HN!

We were not overlooking talent "because we can", we literally could not execute on a significant portion of our roadmaps due to lack of talent despite offering FAANG salaries.

I'm also all for holding corporations accountable, and if you see my past comments, I've been calling out all the anti-worker shenanigans that started since Elon fired 80% of Twitter (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47175871)

But 1) as the data suggests, H1B displacing native jobs is not really a problem, and 2) as other comments here indicate, it's not Microsoft that needs to be held accountable because, at just below FAANG-level salaries, it is one of the highest paying companies in the industry.