Comment by onlyrealcuzzo
2 hours ago
OpenRouter is complete garbage.
Buy directly from DeepSeek's API.
You can literally get overcharged 100x on DeepSeek on OpenRouter (or more).
2 hours ago
OpenRouter is complete garbage.
Buy directly from DeepSeek's API.
You can literally get overcharged 100x on DeepSeek on OpenRouter (or more).
Zero Data Retention and not having company source code leak to "CHINA!" (said in Trumps annoying voice) would be two reasons not to
I'm all in for saving money and _can_ move to using DS directly from them, but maybe I am missing something here:
OpenRouter Pricing:
$0.02/M input tokens $0.60/M output tokens
DeepSeek Pricing (cache miss, off-peak):
$0.15/M Input $0.60/m output
When 98.5% of my requests are cache hits (according to Pi for the last week), the cache miss price isn’t that important to me, and $0.003-0.006 per 1M input tokens is shockingly cheap.
It’s also the major difference between using DeepSeek directly vs other providers also serving it, though I have not looked lately: it’s possible other providers have matched its cache hit pricing better?
Interesting, if the cache hit is that good, I think HN convinced me to toss $20 at DS official, and see how long that lasts.
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I've heard that certain inference providers may have different quality of caching implementations, so even if the listed numbers are as you say, the practical cache hit % you get might be significantly different/incur significantly different costs.
There’s a big difference in speed & quality between using DeepSeek API directly with DSH vs. DeepSeek in Opencode Go with Opencode CLI. Can’t tell if it’s the provider or the harness - but worth to give it a try.
One of the reasons I use OpenRouter is because they offer zero data retention. As far as I can tell, DeepSeek's own API doesn't support ZDR.
Youre doing something so special you need that?
DeepInfra does and it's the same price. That's what I use.
DeepSeek trains on your inputs. That's why people go on OpenRouter and choose ZDR providers.
Or.. BYOK Deepseek because OpenRouter's UX is much nicer?