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Comment by someguyiguess

18 hours ago

Eye of Sauron to counter Palantir. Makes sense.

Does it though? The Eye of Sauron represents the being so sufficiently single-minded that it corrupted the Palantir and weaponized them for evil ends.

AKA, you know, Peter Thiel.

  • Well it kind of works. The palantir was (were? are there more than one?) used for remote viewing and Sauron corrupted it for his own purposes.

    Here, palantir is meant for surveillance and this corrupts that by allowing the user to use the presence of the camera to curtail surveillance rather than submit to surveillance.

    • Nope, still doesn’t work. The palantir — and yes, there were more than one, there had to be, they were each nodes in a kind of closed-circuit communication network; the current user of one stone could see what the current user of any another stone could see, but if one of the two current users was sufficiently powerful of mind they could deceive the other current user — weren’t surveillance devices until they’d been employed by a bad actor to that end, and that bad actor was turn the presence of the palantir untrustworthy. The analogy doesn’t work because it was trivially easy to know a palantir was present (at least one was several feet in diameter) and just as easy to know if one was actively being used (if you could see anything through one then someone was present on the other end)… the problem was you didn’t know if it was being used for good or evil once one was in the hands of Sauron precisely because the being on the other end could always be the Lidless Eye.

      All you had to do to curtail the use of a palantir was throw a sheet over it… the problem was the temptation to use one was too great.