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Comment by g-b-r

16 hours ago

You're sure you're replying to the right message? It doesn't mention any country or nationality...

Anyhow, people don't write off Telegram because it's Russian, but for many legitimate reasons.

There are indications that it could be much closer to the Russian government than they pretend, but that matters not because Russians are bad people, but because the current government of Russia is an aggressive dictatorship.

The Ukrainian military literally used Telegram for years and now literally banned it.

Maybe in part for this Ukrainian article: https://texty.org.ua/articles/112347/eight-signsof-danger-te...

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lxgr  15 hours ago

The main reason I consider it suspicious is that they are so adamant about not needing end-to-end encryption.

Even assuming they are fully legitimate today, if this ever changes and somebody gets access to their infrastructure, they immediately get a treasure trove of historical messages.

  • maqp  3 hours ago

    Telegram hoards messages of over 1,000,000,000 users as of now. Anyone not realizing major nation states have long since pwned the servers to spy on those users is a fool. Even if if the zero days cost 100 BILLION dollars, that access costs like 1-2 hours of intelligence contractor's hourly wage per target. The bang for buck is insane. Telegram is one of the world's biggest intelligence operations, wittingly, or unwittingly.

feelamee  15 hours ago

> Anyhow, people don't write off Telegram because it's Russian, but for many legitimate reasons.

> There are indications that it could be much closer to the Russian government than they pretend

Can you give more details, please? I'm using telegram a lot and want to know if there is something...