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Comment by vlovich123

2 hours ago

> The "does not rescue it". No human would write like that.

This is what I don’t understand. Supposedly LLMs are trained on human text. Why do they come up with such unrealistic prose? Is it intentional because the companies want the tells to be obvious?

They’re not just trained on human prose. They’re sent to RLHF, and also their language changes as a result of RL on verifiable rewards.

Getting it to write well is really hard because there’s no real way to verify whether it’s good prose or not. You and I can tell, but we can’t write a verifier that codifies our judgment.

Maybe they’ll find a way to improve this, but for now it’s certainly one of the harder problems to solve for LLMs.

Part of it is that I think they also have poor theory of mind, which I imagine is also a hard thing to train it to do.

  • Why is it hard? Ask it to write professionally in mid-twentieth century style English, and without resorting to the clickbait style of writing.

    In any event, other LLMs may not automatically have the problem.