Comment by spiderice
1 day ago
I'm confused.. are you suggesting that Claude Code / Codex don't work? Because if you're still saying that in October 2026, it's a you problem. You're doing something wrong.
1 day ago
I'm confused.. are you suggesting that Claude Code / Codex don't work? Because if you're still saying that in October 2026, it's a you problem. You're doing something wrong.
No, I’m talking about the recent DevDay.
Also, yes there are still bugs in Claude Code. I experience them nearly everyday.
It is markedly better than early days, but still not the best harness.
The best software written with agents seems to come from people outside of the labs (see pi, for instance — or all of cloudflare’s recent work)
Which makes me question either the model, or the holders …
Cloudflare is where you lost me. I don't know anyone actually using them other than for their proxy, DNS servers, or DDOS protection.
See, for instance: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49182996 by Kenton Varda
Also, not mentioned in my post:
- Mitchell Hashimoto
- Prime Intellect (and all their agent experiments)
- Geoff Huntley (see Jiti, for instance)
(many more)
There's a ton of interesting software being developed with these models by people outside the in group, but I find most of the software from these big guys to be ... bland. Buggy copies of copies.
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I don't use either myself but I'm in a position where I get to see what it produces for other people. Here's a recent (2-3 months old) example: A zsh script that immediately invoked a Python interpreter that immediately invoked a shell command and iterated over each line of output looking for one of a few strings to match... So, `<cmd> | grep "(stringA|stringB|stringC)"`, but a whole lot dumber.
Thanks, but no thanks, I don't need that kind of code in anything I'm working with.
Claude code is an incredibly buggy mess. I have never used any other TUI that regularly has rendering errors or that is anywhere as laggy as Claude.
Claude Code still doesn't have a working scroll back buffer in their new renderer, it regularly flips its shit and mixes different pieces of history.
Claude Code still can't get reasonable performance without writing a "game renderer" (that doesn't work)
Claude Code is still written in JavaScript, eating hundreds of megabytes to make a shitty TUI whose literal sole role is to send API calls.
Claude Code is software made by amateurs.
I've seen this opinion elsewhere, but it's not clear how their TUI decisions actually affect the functionality of the software.