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Comment by codedokode

7 hours ago

What genius decided to connect a fridge to the Internet? Make him pay the losses.

By the way similar thing might happen to geniuses buying Internet-connected cars.

Here in the UK, there's a £500 subsidy for home EV charge points... but only if they're connected to the internet.

What could possibly go wrong?

  • "What could possibly go wrong?"

    The grid could stabilize as a side effect. And the cars are already connected to the internet.

people who like saving money decided to do this. For simple monitoring purposes. When you have thousands of fridges you want to know how their doing and you don't want to sent a person to inspect each one of them.

  • You could connect to an on-premise server. As a bonus, the manufacturer cannot disable them and extort money in this case.

    • They most likely are. Third party techs then access them over Citrix or VPN/RDP. There could be some cloud portion that aggregates data or pushes policies and schedules as well.

    • If the only usecase is monitoring, then why make the fridges anything else but report-only?

      No firmware updates. no admin configuration. no ssh backdoors. just a transmit-only system

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It sounds like you are victim blaming. I apologize in advance if I interpreted you incorrectly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming

  • > t sounds like you are victim blaming.

    It sounds like you think victims are necessarily blameless.

  • Yes, I always find it very useful to condemn the mosquitoes when someone is bitten. If they aren't heartily condemned, they will be legitimized and emboldened.

    The evil victim blamers say "why was she wearing that short skirt?" They don't realize that the mosquitoes are sexist, and that we can and should eliminate all of the mosquitoes so she can wear what she wants.

  • Gallipolli, 1915:

    "Hey, maybe we shouldn't send men over the top only to die in a barrage of machine gun fire..."

    "That's just victim blaming--it isn't our behavior that needs to change; it is the enemy's behavior that needs to change."

    Victim-blaming is another term that is apparently becoming a meaningless vibe.

Please find me a new car that isn't Internet-connected, genius. You're assuming consumers have a meaningful alternative.

  • Russian car mechanics know how to "unlock" Chinese cars that operate only within China and require a Chinese SIM card (they are sold locally at lower prices, so some people find it cheaper to buy a car in China and unlock it). Finding and disabling modems is definitely an easier task and can be done.

  • Easy, go to the used lot and get one of the remaining actual cars before they become collectible antiques.

    • Buying a car is the easy part.

      In my experience, new cars have new car problems, but old cars have old car problems.

      There’s no clear winner in every metric, just trade offs.

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Offtopic: I only see "genius" used these days to describe an idiot. I guess this is how words change meaning over time. At some point in the future being called a "genius" will always be seen as pejorative.

  • I don't think the definition is changing at all. To me, we've just lost the ability to comprehend sarcasm.

  • That's because calling an idiot an idiot plainly is apparently considered uncouth and attracts downvotes, flags and downvotes often mean oblivion. In fact you will find do-gooders chome in with "be civil" but you flip the word and it's all kosher. The thing is all of us do and say idiotic things. So that makes a bit tricky indeed.

    > in the future being called a "genius" will always be seen as pejorative.

    If you are not a genius and someone calls you a genius, well, for you the future is already here, genius! (Shit I didn't really mean that :P)

  • There should be a name for this style of speech, using "good" to mean "bad".

    • Irony? Camp? “genius is a camp - so good that it’s bad”. “In the sentence ‘this is the sh1t’, ‘sh1t’ is camp - so bad that it is good”.

    • There’s a lot of this in African-American vernacular. I’m not exactly sure what a “bad bitch” means but I believe it means attractive whore, but does it or does it just mean a good woman? Either way that’s two traditionally negative terms that seem to be used positively.