Comment by ozgrakkurt
9 hours ago
It is amusing how many people are arguing what litigation is here, probably none of these people have a law education.
Imagine a bunch of lawyers arguing what programming is. Even a bunch of programmers arguing what programming is abnoxious at worst and a mental exercise at best.
How does that track though? If, as a programmer, I claim programming is really the tasks a principle engineer does at Google or Netflix, is that accurate or survivorship bias from someone who made it to the top of the chain?
If lawyerin’ was always doing something novel, it wouldn’t be much of a set of laws. The bulk of lawyerin’ in the US is, I would guess without a whit of substantiation, a lot of small claims and standard form type things. Not discounting the value of the profession in any way, but if one job based on standard codes can have its basic functions replaced by AI, why not another?
That's how I feel reading HN's opinions on the recent math results. <5% of the responses even understand the point they're supposed to be arguing. AI might take over mathematics. It might not. The discussion regarding that topic is almost devoid of any relevant information though.
I'd extend that to the typical HNer's understanding about practically any subject. A lot of bluster and supposition, little first-hand knowledge or expertise.
> probably none of these people have a law education.
Domain knowledge is informative sometimes but mainly overrated: the success of LLMs proves just that. What most lawyers do is fairly standardized and routine, efforts to invoke mystery cases or "novel" is an attempt at resisting the inevitable. The "the only British food in Palo Alto" equivalent of unique skills.
>What most lawyers do is fairly standardized and routine
True of...literally every occupation.
Lawyers would be better suited to argue what programming is because they know logic. There’s not much to algorithms: do this, then do that.
Programmers typically don’t know law outside of which license allows them to get code for free.
> There’s not much to algorithms: do this, then do that.
Yeah, and how many of drivers or software engineers can fix their car's engine? Just a few. Even though in priciple there's not much to it.
It’s a joke…
a) I have never met a Lawyer who was able to write a single code line
b) I have met Lawyer colleagues who didnt know how build a =SUM() in Excel
So, I doubt....
> a) I have never met a Lawyer who was able to write a single code line
That doesn't mean they don't exist. I went to law school with many former software engineers, many of whom are now prosecuting patents on behalf of high tech companies, and some of whom went back to engineering (like me).
"I have never met ______" is of no consequence to anyone; it's an argument style best avoided unless you're talking about deities or space aliens.
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There are a couple right here on HN.