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Comment by sourcecodeplz

4 hours ago

its three big companies at the frontier now? openai, anthropic and now meta.

why is google still not frontier?

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Tactical45  4 hours ago

They're not until they are. No doubt they are working on something and have better resourcing than the AI labs

mattlondon  3 hours ago

Gemini 4 Argon release a few days ago was frontier a few days ago. Things move fast.

I think some of the benchmarks that Meta didn't pick show Gemini 4 Argon ahead but really the benchmarks are not that great any more and getting increasingly disconnected from reality as people search for "headroom" in the evals to avoid saturation I think. Opus 5.5 is "top" for example but I really dislike the way it talks to me (it feels quite condescending, holier-than-thou, uptight etc) and prefer Gemini 3.8 flash as a daily driver just because it's so much more pleasant (and faster!) to work with and it's code is good-enough for my needs, despite being weaker in the benchmarks.