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Comment by bigwheels

1 day ago

He died by suicide.

A reminder to everyone here: Even when you can’t see a way forward, one can still emerge. Stay. Reach out. You don’t have to face the darkest moments alone.

I’ve attempted suicide three times. Here’s the tip I give people who I encounter these days who have a severe mental illness.

The thing that stopped me from attempting again was 15 years ago I finally realized that no one knows what happens after you die. So I couldn’t really say for sure whether they’re dying by suicide would lead me in a better situation.

  • I'm really sorry you have gone through that. I have been pretty deeply depressed a couple times in past, to the point of considering suicide. What I share with people is that in those periods, it truly felt like things weren't going to get better and I was just going to be in emotional pain indefinitely.

    But gradually, things got better in my life. I have had so much joy in the 20 years since. I still have bad days sometimes, but on the whole, I feel such a sense of gratitude.

    I can't promise anyone that their own situation will get better. I can only say that my experience is that it is possible.

    • Thanks and sorry for the delay, @dang has me rate limited for reason.

      I accepted life as an adventure. A true adventure, when you say "eff it", I am gonna die anyway so why not embrace the suffering as part of it.

      For me though, it was my psychosis driving my SI. Not much rational thought going on.

  • I'm so sorry. I'm glad you are here and are sharing this with folks like me. I lost my child, mom, and wife, all back to back in accidents. I really have lost all the will to live. Like... I have made peace with everything tbh! I did think about everything, but I couldn't do it because of dad. And then at a point we both thought about it ending it all, but eventually I found my support system with my friends. Support system + meds + therapy... are helping me keep functioning these days. Reaching out is the first step.

    And I try think about this the same way about my birth. I really cannot say what it was like before... So death is kind of the same. But the 'inbetween' matters. At least it mattered in my case. For now, it helps to live just by the day and not think beyond it.

    If anyone is reading this and is in a dark place please know that things can be better with the right support and help.

    I guess Noaidi, me, and other folks here are proof that it all works.

    • I just read your blog post and my heart is with you. Seriously. You are a strong soul. What else can be said. Nothing will make it better. We are here to suffer, for an unknown purpose. Only faith in the divine gives me hope in those moments. And I hope that one day life will make more sense

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    • Thanks. Peace, yes, that is the key. A very radical acceptance that everything is impermanent.

      It works, for sure, and I need to be more vocal about my survival and how I did, and still do it. Thank you again, and I am glad you came out of all of that with such great insight. _/\_

  • I guess this isn't the place for it, but from a scientific point of view, I'm quite certain what's after (i.e. I've convinced myself) ...

  • Fuck that other person. I'm sorry you have to deal with idiots like that here.

    I can't imagine what you're going through but just know that you matter and that the world is a better place with you in it. I hope you are doing better and you get the help you need.

What is the way forward? When people are staring down the barrel of being completely broke, in debt, facing homelessness, malnutrition, deteriorating quality of life until they ultimately die, what is going to emerge except some black swan of event of pure luck that gets you back to a bearable life? Just telling people it gets better doesn’t help, you must help them.

  • N=1 but reading “Down and Out in Paris & London” by George Orwell really helped me out these things into perspective.

    • What’s the perspective? Because it’s seems like it’s always some variation of “it could be worse”. Like yea there’s probably a lower circle of hell you could be burning in but you’re still in hell with no way out.

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  • “People with cerebral palsy experience mental health conditions and psychiatric disorders at significantly higher rates than the general population.”

    I’m hard pressed to blame this solely on his financial situations. Cerebral palsy changes the brain. It might be that he had another underlying mental illness that he was afraid to talk about because of the stigma. I mean, this is just guessing, but a lot of people live through our situations without dying by suicide.

    I’m a three times suicide survivor and I can tell you it wasn’t anything financial just something that took over my body

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  • It's sad. The reality you describe is hard to grasp for many but it's the reality of modern life in many ways. I can't say that I wouldn't resort to saying things that I don't fully believe in if one of my friends was on the verge. I would give it shot to make them reconsider it and perhaps it was just an irrational moment.

    • My sister killed herself about 20 years ago. It wasn't a spur of the moment thing. She was an extremely intelligent and physically-capable person. What she did was both very elaborate and very planned, and it is clear that she had rationalized this escape for a long time before she began the lengthy process of executing it.

      Nobody but her saw it coming, and I still do not know what kind of resources could ever have succeeded at allowing her to make a different decision.

      But I am sure that whatever it was that her demons and issues consisted of, that none of them could be excised by simple platitudes, abject kindness, or minimizing the problems by pretending to be able to relate. She was smarter than that.