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Comment by lwansbrough

1 day ago

I don’t think it’s symmetrical. As a company, in a lot of cases, you get one shot to secure the thing. And then all owners collectively then get infinite time to jailbreak it.

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saturn8601  21 hours ago

Tell that to the people trying to break the Xbox One. Took 12 years. As far as I know the latest console still isn't cracked fully. In the past a lot of security holes were due to a supplier not having their security game up to snuff. AI will help B tier security people become A tier so I suspect these Microsoft scenarios will be more common.

  • kadoban  20 hours ago

    Game consoles are basically the top tier of locked-down-home-appliances, because they're sold at a loss with the expectation of making it up later. It's thus very important that the games be difficult to pirate for as long as possible.

    Basically nothing else is like that. That does show the top tier of what companies can do if they try hard enough, but I don't think AI will get you there. I expect you still need someone to care _deeply_ to get everything just right to make it as difficult as possible, otherwise there's just so much room for one small mistake.

    • shellwizard  19 hours ago

      Inkjet printers and coffee pods machines are other home oriented devices that are normally sold at a loss where official consumables are crazy expensive

  • DMAstra  16 hours ago

    The immediate question as to why someone is taking so long to break the Xbox One is "Why would anyone want to beak the Xbox One?"

    It has very little in the way of exclusives, and it can run emulators on Dev Mode.

    It's pointless. That's why no one did for a decade.

DMAstra  16 hours ago

Also, there will always be things we can do to a device that no single piece of compiled software can stop. If someone make the ultimate bitchchip, impossible to alter, someone will make the ultimate fukuchip, which works the exact same but can be attached directly around it with minor soldering.

Bluestein  1 day ago

OTA updates?

  • wtallis  21 hours ago

    Only until consumers get fed up with everything from their TV to their coffee maker spying on them and start demanding IOT products that don't actually connect to the Internet and instead interact with a local gateway device. That may never happen, but the barriers to making all your gadgets cooperate and speak the same protocol instead of requiring vendor-specific apps are definitely getting lower.

  • sbarre  21 hours ago

    My 2016 Kindle has been in airplane mode since 2018 and I don't plan on ever changing that.